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let's talk about taxes, which has gotten most of the attention, congressman van hollen, john boehner offered a compromise this week and he said, yes, i'm willing to put more revenue on the table, but, through closing deductions and ending loopholes, not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of this whole deal, that doesn't raise the bush tax rate on the wealthy? >> well, here's the issue. how much revenue are we going to generate as part of the balanced package and i take my lead from simpson-bowles in their framework and they assume the amount of revenue as if you started tax reform from a 39% rate. that is part of their built-in assumption and i'm all for doing tax reform. the issue is, from what starting point. and i think the simpson-bowles starting point, which assumes that revenue from 39%, is the right way to go to get the next they got in hitting the deficit reduction target and if what speaker boehner was saying, he is truly willing to get what we consider congressional budget office scorable revenue, then we can begin to work with one another. if what w
let's talk about taxes, which has gotten most of the attention, congressman van hollen, john boehner offered a compromise this week and he said, yes, i'm willing to put more revenue on the table, but, through closing deductions and ending loopholes, not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of this whole deal, that doesn't raise the bush tax rate on the wealthy? >> well, here's the issue. how much revenue are we going to generate as part of the balanced package and i...
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prosecution. 3 ii simple termm: this is a story about a former top geeeral, david petraeus, his successor john allen-- and two women: petraeus biographer paula broadwell and petraeus faaily friend jill kelley. between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are pages of documents. "it - really makes yoo wonderrhow he it, and the motivation to do o - that from afar." the news about allen--which the national security council spooesman says president obama learned about the same day petraeus resigned-- has put allen's nominntion to be nato's supreme allied commander on hold..allen denies any wrongdoing and &premains on duty in afghanistan. "the presidentt has great confidence ii the mil
prosecution. 3 ii simple termm: this is a story about a former top geeeral, david petraeus, his successor john allen-- and two women: petraeus biographer paula broadwell and petraeus faaily friend jill kelley. between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails...
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>> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give him an idea what's going on. and then the question is, would holder have gone to his boss and commander in chief. it's hard for me to imagine that chain just stopping with something as sensational as an ongoing investigation of david petraeus cia director just stopping. and so i think the question whether it was some inkling that the whitehouse, through a formal channel, informal channel before the election that people just kind of sat on and then it went in a more formal chain of command way, they acted instantly once he heard about it. was there something before then, as john said a minute ago, in this full scale investigation that will be a key question. >> i agree about why it didn't make its way up the chain of command. however, in some of these cases there are
>> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give him an idea what's going on. and then the question is, would holder have gone to his boss and commander in chief. it's hard for me to imagine that chain just stopping with something as sensational as an ongoing investigation of...
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john, why would the f.b.i. be investigating the communications of the director of the c.i.a.? >> normally that wouldn't be the case. what is much more likely here is that the communications of someone else-- possibly in a foreign country that are now touching the c.i.a. director's communications-- would rise to their attention. and then what happens here is they're looking at these messages and they seem to be cryptic in pitch that cher raises the question, all right, well, who is this person, what are these communications about, why are they scrip tick? that's how the snowball rolls down the hill. >> >> pelley: so in the normal course of business the f.b.i. and counterintelligence is looking for penetration of the c.i.a. and its communications systems? >> exactly. to have it on this level is not only extraordinarily rare it's unprecedented. >> pelley: i wonder if your sources are telling you about anything about whether any classified information or national secrets were divulged in any of this? >> they're quite definitive on that. they say while initial conversations raised
john, why would the f.b.i. be investigating the communications of the director of the c.i.a.? >> normally that wouldn't be the case. what is much more likely here is that the communications of someone else-- possibly in a foreign country that are now touching the c.i.a. director's communications-- would rise to their attention. and then what happens here is they're looking at these messages and they seem to be cryptic in pitch that cher raises the question, all right, well, who is this...
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i was pretty struck by some language that john mccain used in reference to general petraeus about whom republicans could say nothing bad for years. he was going to have to come up to capitol hill. i think it was next week, and he was going to testify behind closed doors about what happened in benghazi. so this was really probably the most politically uncomfortable leaving aside the stuff with the affair, just on the benghazi question, the most politically uncomfortable moment the guy has had since he reached the nashl stage. it had to be a hard time for him. where does he stand and fit in with things? he's been leading the agency into much deeper involvement in drone strikes and they're counterterror war. he's a goo who championed counterinsurgency and almost nation building representing towards the targets, military style attacks. someone else will come in and pick up the ball in the cia. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. >>> let's go to msnbc senior political analyst mark halpern if for more. mark, what are you hearing right now? >> well, to echo what michael said, there's lots we don
i was pretty struck by some language that john mccain used in reference to general petraeus about whom republicans could say nothing bad for years. he was going to have to come up to capitol hill. i think it was next week, and he was going to testify behind closed doors about what happened in benghazi. so this was really probably the most politically uncomfortable leaving aside the stuff with the affair, just on the benghazi question, the most politically uncomfortable moment the guy has had...
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i think john boehner was very clear that everything is on the table with respect to revenue reductions -- revenue increases as well as spending reductions, but there are certain things that aren't. and i think what john boehner said is right, we should not be increasing tax rates on businesses in america. so i think you're going to look at it from the standpoint of can we tighten the tax code, limit deductions? there are things we can do to simplify the code that will result in more revenue because it will result in more growth. i think republicans absolutely should put those things on the table and revenue certainly should be part of the deal. >> some people are blaming you for mitt romney's failure, and i'll explain to you why. >> i wish i had such power here that i could be blamed for these things. >> allow me to elaborate. what they're saying is if he hadn't been pushed into fairly right wing quite extreme positions in his battle against the likes of you early this year for the public nominee race, then he wouldn't have gotten himself in this unholy mess of being branded against wo
i think john boehner was very clear that everything is on the table with respect to revenue reductions -- revenue increases as well as spending reductions, but there are certain things that aren't. and i think what john boehner said is right, we should not be increasing tax rates on businesses in america. so i think you're going to look at it from the standpoint of can we tighten the tax code, limit deductions? there are things we can do to simplify the code that will result in more revenue...
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>> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give him an idea what's going on. and then the question is, would holder have gone to his boss and commander in chief. it's hard for me to imagine that chain just stopping with something as sensational as an ongoing investigation of david petraeus cia director just stopping. and so i think the question whether it was some inkling that the whitehouse, through a formal channel, informal channel before the election that people just kind of sat on and then it went in a more formal chain of command way, they acted instantly once he heard about it. was there something before then, as john said a minute ago, in this full scale investigation that will be a key question. >> i agree about why it didn't make its way up the chain of command. however, in some of these cases there are
>> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give him an idea what's going on. and then the question is, would holder have gone to his boss and commander in chief. it's hard for me to imagine that chain just stopping with something as sensational as an ongoing investigation of...
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joining me is john miller, former assistant director of the fbi. john, welcome. what do you make of this? tell me about the relationship here in the scandal between the fbi and the cia. many people are saying what on earth is going on. fbi investigating some weird complaint from a woman about getting some dodgy e-mails. how has that led to a full-fledged investigation that brings down the cia director? >> you couldn't have made this story up. >> you really couldn't. >> it doesn't start that way. i mean, it starts in the strangest way, because you have a woman who has these harassing e-mails, a couple of which mention david petraeus, but they're not threatening to her, nor are they accusing anyone of having an affair. so she has these annoying e-mails but they mention things that are personal information about her that she finds disturbing so she goes to an fbi agent she knows and she says can i get this investigated. and that agent brings her into the tampa field office and the tampa field office has a cybersquad that does criminal work, and they look at it and s
joining me is john miller, former assistant director of the fbi. john, welcome. what do you make of this? tell me about the relationship here in the scandal between the fbi and the cia. many people are saying what on earth is going on. fbi investigating some weird complaint from a woman about getting some dodgy e-mails. how has that led to a full-fledged investigation that brings down the cia director? >> you couldn't have made this story up. >> you really couldn't. >> it...
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you have right new at the white house john brennan served at highest level at c.i.a. and he is the chief counterterrorism advisor to the president. i would not be surprised to see his name put forward. and acting director is very capable. while this is shocking because we have known general petraeus and david petraeus as a man of great leadership ability and moral fiber, that is the shock, but dealing with the world issues the c.i.a. will go on and i don't think it will necessarily disrupt the way the administration deals with the other issues. >>trace: i was struck by something jennifer said, bret, because it was in secret that general petraeus and the white house had disagreements before he went to the c.i.a. and when he went to the c.i.a. this was a feeling the white house was happy he was at the c.i.a. talk about that relationship and further news you could have of the resignation. >>bret: jennifer was eloquent about the thought that general petraeus has a respect not only in the military but throughout washington as someone who is honest. someone whose word is so
you have right new at the white house john brennan served at highest level at c.i.a. and he is the chief counterterrorism advisor to the president. i would not be surprised to see his name put forward. and acting director is very capable. while this is shocking because we have known general petraeus and david petraeus as a man of great leadership ability and moral fiber, that is the shock, but dealing with the world issues the c.i.a. will go on and i don't think it will necessarily disrupt the...
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police on the hunt for software pioneer, john mcafee. with questions about the murder of his next door neighbor. >>> and brace for landing. the jet that ran out of runway and careened straight toward a busy highway. a camera capturing this very close call. >>> good tuesday morning. we have a lot to sort through. a new bombshell in the growing scandal surrounding david petraeus. the man who replaced him as the top commander in afghanistan is now under investigation by the pentagon. >> general john allen is said to have sent thousands of inappropriate e-mails to jill kelly. she is the florida woman whose complaints to the fbi eventually led to petraeus' resignation. in a new twist to the david petraeus sex scandal, the pentagon now says that the top american commander in afghanistan, general john allen, is under investigation, for allegedly sending improper e-mails to jill kelly. kelly is the florida woman who triggered the investigation that ultimately forced petraeus to resign. the pentagon is reviewing between 20,000 and 30,000 document
police on the hunt for software pioneer, john mcafee. with questions about the murder of his next door neighbor. >>> and brace for landing. the jet that ran out of runway and careened straight toward a busy highway. a camera capturing this very close call. >>> good tuesday morning. we have a lot to sort through. a new bombshell in the growing scandal surrounding david petraeus. the man who replaced him as the top commander in afghanistan is now under investigation by the...
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i was on the john stuart daily show weekend half ago and i will borrow my line there, john stewart asked the same question and i said my husband says i should say he is going to run for office because it would sell more books, but i can't tell a lie. he is not interested in running for office, as a mentor of mine, i mentioned my interest in running for office, he says politics corrupt absolutely, he has seen these individuals, his collegial franz, spent a lot of time, they will stab him in the back in an extent to advance their political agenda and he take that personally, he doesn't want to be able like that. he also said if he would run for office he would have to yield on his principles to win the primaries, to win the peripheral voters. i don't think so. i think he is electable by either party. people admire that he values -- is a value oriented individual. some of the mantras he subscribes to, live with your values. lot of people can relate to that and the ideal of serving -- she doesn't want to, it would be great but it won't happen. he would stay in the job for four years or eight
i was on the john stuart daily show weekend half ago and i will borrow my line there, john stewart asked the same question and i said my husband says i should say he is going to run for office because it would sell more books, but i can't tell a lie. he is not interested in running for office, as a mentor of mine, i mentioned my interest in running for office, he says politics corrupt absolutely, he has seen these individuals, his collegial franz, spent a lot of time, they will stab him in the...
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john, let me start with you. what more can you tell us about this fbi agent who originally got the complaint, i guess, is the right word, from jill kelley about the e-mails? >> so as this picture unfolds, erin, what we learn about jill kelley, she is very adept at making connections with people, networking those connections and hanging on to those people and figuring out how they might come in handy later. this is a case like that. so she goes as a class member in the fbi's citizens' academy at the tampa field office. this is a thing where you're hand-selected to be a member of the class among community leaders. it goes on for eight or ten weeks, and you go twice a week, and they give you briefings on all of the fbi programs, and this agent gives one of the briefings for his squad and she chats with him after they exchange cards. and they stay in touch. when she starts getting the weird e-mails, she calls him up and says, i'm getting these strange e-mails, i want to know who is sending them, i want this person to
john, let me start with you. what more can you tell us about this fbi agent who originally got the complaint, i guess, is the right word, from jill kelley about the e-mails? >> so as this picture unfolds, erin, what we learn about jill kelley, she is very adept at making connections with people, networking those connections and hanging on to those people and figuring out how they might come in handy later. this is a case like that. so she goes as a class member in the fbi's citizens'...
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our current commander in afghanistan, he took over when petraeus left, john allen. now being investigated for what officials describe as potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley of tampa. both of them deny any untoward relationship. they're reviewing the conduct of the first agent who reviewed jill kelley's e-mails in the first place, because he allegedly sent shirtless photos to jill kelley. in plain english, this is a mess. with hearings to come, this can only get larger from here. we begin our reporting of the story tonight with andrea mitchell in the d.c. newsroom. >> tonight the white house is expressing strong support for general john allen. the top commander in afghanistan, who has strongly denied any wrongdoing. after becoming entangled in the investigation that derailed the career of david petraeus. suddenly, last night, the scandal involving two very different women, jill kelley and paula broadwell ensnared not only petraeus, but his successor. john allen who took over for petraeus in afghanistan. >> for all that you have done for me and our -- >
our current commander in afghanistan, he took over when petraeus left, john allen. now being investigated for what officials describe as potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley of tampa. both of them deny any untoward relationship. they're reviewing the conduct of the first agent who reviewed jill kelley's e-mails in the first place, because he allegedly sent shirtless photos to jill kelley. in plain english, this is a mess. with hearings to come, this can only get larger from here....
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. >> john bolton, former embassador to the united nations joins us. good morning, embassador. >> good morning. >> do you buy this timeline about petraeus, that he resigned after the election and no one knew a thing until this came out? >> no, it's simply not credible. i speak in part not just as a state department alumnus but the justice department too. i can't believe if the f.b.i. investigating the c.i.a., to agencies who have no love loss between them, the f.b.i. uncovered possible problems with communications from the c.i.a.'s director, i have to believe that the director of the f.b.i. would have been informed of this in a matter of nanoseconds and i would be sunday if the f.b.i. director did not immediately talk to the attorney general as soon as he learned about this potential problem. and i then find it hard to believe that the attorney general wouldn't talk to the president. so we don't know exactly what the timing is, but i simply don't think on something this potentially consequential that the information drifted around at low levels for wee
. >> john bolton, former embassador to the united nations joins us. good morning, embassador. >> good morning. >> do you buy this timeline about petraeus, that he resigned after the election and no one knew a thing until this came out? >> no, it's simply not credible. i speak in part not just as a state department alumnus but the justice department too. i can't believe if the f.b.i. investigating the c.i.a., to agencies who have no love loss between them, the f.b.i....
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we do have new details on the personal scandal that has enveloped petraeus and john allen from nbc's andrea mitchell who broke the story. >> reporter: at his news conference the president went out of his way to praise petraeus. >> he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that dave petraeus has done. >> reporter: as paula broadwell remained in washington staying with her brother and still not talking, officials say the investigation was triggered in may when general john allen received an e-mail from an account called kelley patrol. sources close to kelly say it warned the general to stay away from her, that she could ruin him. general allen says people close to jill kelley forwarded it to her on the account she shares with her husband scott thinking she sent it as a joke. sources close to kelley said she had told general allen she had not sent it but was concerned she was being stalked or electronically hacked because it referred to a meeting they had scheduled in washington the following week. in june she and her husband received as man
we do have new details on the personal scandal that has enveloped petraeus and john allen from nbc's andrea mitchell who broke the story. >> reporter: at his news conference the president went out of his way to praise petraeus. >> he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that dave petraeus has done. >> reporter: as paula broadwell remained in washington staying with her brother and still not talking, officials say the...
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john's baptist church and it's hard because of the separation of church and state. fema isn't allowed to help the churches and they're the bedrock of where people are turning for help. congressman gregory meeks was baptized at that church and i asked him and pastor j.d. williams how long it's going to take the community to recover. >> it's going to be a long time. this is a symbol of what it is. we are here at st. john's baptist church and it's going to take this church, which is an institution in the community, a long time to get itself back on its feet. it was devastated by this storm. you just look inside and you'll see complete destruction. it's going to take months upon months upon months to get it back together again. >> pastor, this is the largest church here on the peninsula. >> on the peninsula. and we have 15 employees, we did. we have a day care, ministry. the church is open seven days a week, during the week days from monday to friday from 6:00 until 6:00. and now these employees of our church are without a job. the bottom has been completely destroyed.
john's baptist church and it's hard because of the separation of church and state. fema isn't allowed to help the churches and they're the bedrock of where people are turning for help. congressman gregory meeks was baptized at that church and i asked him and pastor j.d. williams how long it's going to take the community to recover. >> it's going to be a long time. this is a symbol of what it is. we are here at st. john's baptist church and it's going to take this church, which is an...
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thanks, john. "morning joe" starts right now.
thanks, john. "morning joe" starts right now.
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john's episcopal in the rockaways. they may now be out millions of dollars for doing the right thing and of course, we remember veterans day tonight. >> thank you very much. our fifth story, still in the dark. as flights come in from around the world from people going to manhattan to jfk, they fly over where we were today, landing in the dark. a community desperate for help. >> milk, juices, cookies. there will always be a clothes drive. >> each day, the line outside the thriftway in far rockaway forms early. >> there are elderly who cannot leave their homes. if you can get one to them, i would appreciate it. >> people here wait for hours. not for gas, but for food, water and clothing. a wait that can sometimes be in vain. >> we've been out here for going on three hours now, waiting for this truck that's supposed to have been coming here today at 11:00.120,000 people, the rockaway peninsula is struggling as thousands are still without power, including stores, restaurants and banks. for those who live in a high-rise lik
john's episcopal in the rockaways. they may now be out millions of dollars for doing the right thing and of course, we remember veterans day tonight. >> thank you very much. our fifth story, still in the dark. as flights come in from around the world from people going to manhattan to jfk, they fly over where we were today, landing in the dark. a community desperate for help. >> milk, juices, cookies. there will always be a clothes drive. >> each day, the line outside the...
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john's. a number of them live in hard-hit areas and lost their homes. like the hospital's chaplain, they, too, pray for a miracle. before this crisis, we were nip and tuck, shall we say, in terms of our finances, just getting by and there really won't be a way for us to survive this unless there are some gracious angels and the federal government and state government come up with a different formula for reimbursement. >> the government was telling people to go to that hospital, yet medicare won't reimburse the hospital. will the hospital get any of that money back? >> reporter: well, under medicare, no. but under fema, i spoke to an official there, they said that st. john's hospital is eligible but it's too soon in the process to tell. they are going to have to apply and see how much money they get, if they get any. so it's still very much the beginning, anderson. >>> still ahead, disturbing video that went viral. a judge caught on tape beating his teenaged daughter with a belt. you may remember this video. now there's a new twist to the story. details
john's. a number of them live in hard-hit areas and lost their homes. like the hospital's chaplain, they, too, pray for a miracle. before this crisis, we were nip and tuck, shall we say, in terms of our finances, just getting by and there really won't be a way for us to survive this unless there are some gracious angels and the federal government and state government come up with a different formula for reimbursement. >> the government was telling people to go to that hospital, yet...
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general john allen... the u-s commander in afghaniitan... is under investigation for allegedly sending emails to in the affairrof the former ed - to have spaakkd the f-b-i aid - investigation intoothe relationship betteee petraeus and hhs bioggapher, paula broadwell. the f-b-i is under scruuiny as well. senate intelligence committee chairwoman ddanne feinstein wants to kkow why the f-b-i did not teel congressional oversight committees ahead of tiie about the petraeus affair. "i'm sure both of them lookk back on what has now transpired and reaalze ttey of their livee and uh- i takes - assume both of them --uh- would bet both of ttem, you know, sort of come roaringg back." feinntein's committee planss to meet privatelyytoday to determine hoo it will proceed on the f-bbi matter. petraaus resigned friday.his affair investigation f "jealous" e--ails reportedly sent by broadwell to jill keeley. high school hockey teams in stop playing the nntional anthem at games... in order to save time and mooey. money.that's because teams rent out ice time... s
general john allen... the u-s commander in afghaniitan... is under investigation for allegedly sending emails to in the affairrof the former ed - to have spaakkd the f-b-i aid - investigation intoothe relationship betteee petraeus and hhs bioggapher, paula broadwell. the f-b-i is under scruuiny as well. senate intelligence committee chairwoman ddanne feinstein wants to kkow why the f-b-i did not teel congressional oversight committees ahead of tiie about the petraeus affair. "i'm sure both...
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. >> john, the relationship between the president and general petraeus has been portrayed into its early formation as being tense and difficult but actually of late it's become much more mutually supportive and, indeed, in general petraeus' letter of resignation he says of the president thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. clearly the relationship between the two had improved. indeed, none of us had expected his position in the cabinet to change, did we? >> not at all. if you turn the clock back to 2009, there was real concern among the political people in the white house that he was going to run for president on the republican party ticket. it sounds a little out there now, but these were, you know, top aides to the president who worried about that. not that petraeus was planning to do so, but they saw him as a potential political threat. that's how popular he was. that's how much stature he had after the iraq surge, and so there was some real distrust there initially. not necessarily from the president personally but from the president's team. then over time when th
. >> john, the relationship between the president and general petraeus has been portrayed into its early formation as being tense and difficult but actually of late it's become much more mutually supportive and, indeed, in general petraeus' letter of resignation he says of the president thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. clearly the relationship between the two had improved. indeed, none of us had expected his position in the cabinet to change, did we? >> not...
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john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the tax cuts expire. the president and democrats propose a bill to restore the tax cuts to all but the top bracket and the republicans say, no, no, no. we don't want to do that. we have to restore the tax cuts to the rich people. they don't want to be in that situation, they can't let themselves get in that situation. >> which is why, i think you saw john boehner come out pretty aggressively this week and say he's open to a compromise. the key word in his statement and the statement he made before the election was tax rates. he doesn't want to see the rates go up.
john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the...